I. Regular TAC monthly work session meeting commenced at 81 W. Agate in Granby at 6:10p on Monday, April 10, 2000. In attendance were: Sue Ann Fitch (TAC), Joe Evans (RMNP), Barbara Hopwood Douglas (citizens), Eunice Marte (Gr.Co. COA), Ingrid Karlstrom (G.Co.P&Z), Gary McGraw (WPRA), J. Groswold (citizens), A.T.Stoddard (LSC), Daryl Shrum (Town of WP), Don Dempsey (citizens, CIFGA), Robert Anderson (GCBOCC), Kim Long (citizens, BOCC candidate), Steve Saffle (Ryder), Catherine Ross (WPCoC), Kent Meyer, YMCA

II. Approval of minutes of 3/2/00 was moved by Barbara Hopwood Douglass and seconded by Gary McGraw. Approved unanimously. A brief discussion over the possibility of moving the meeting time to 6:30 was held and it was decided to continue meeting at 6p.

III. Sue Ann Fitch gave update on distribution and collection of paper surveys. Anyone who knows where completed paper surveys are out, and not yet collected, please collect asap and mail to Corinne Donahue, LSC Transportation Consultants, Inc. at 101 N. Tejon, #200, Colorado Springs, CO 80903. Sue Ann also gave update on website posting of Tech Memo #1 which should be on local internet service providers shortly to reduce downloading time. See http://transit.rkymtnhi.com. $3000 in American Public Transit grant funds were awarded to the TAC for public education and advocacy regarding the benefits of public transit. These funds will be used after the TDP is complete. CDOT 5313 funds are still on hold but are expected to be available by mid-April. (Note: On 4/12/00 TAC was informed that the CDOT contract would be effective as of 4/6/00).

IV. Bus rides now - everyone agreed that there must be a simpler way to tell the public which ski busses they can get on and when. Sue Ann, Steve Saffle, Jim Gerton & Gary McGraw will plan to work on coordinating and clarifying the schedules over the summer before next ski season's brochures must be printed.

VI. After discussion, the consensus was that the benefits of CASTA membership for the TAC were well worth the $250 annual membership fee and payment of the 2000 fee was unanimously approved. It was also decided that a TAC member should attend the CASTA Spring Training in Greeley, Wednesday, May 3^rd to Friday, May 5^th and payment of registration ($135), transportation ($.325/mile) and meals was approved. It is hoped that whoever attends will know someone locally with whom he or she can stay to eliminate the cost of housing. Sue Ann indicated her preference, since she attended the fall CASTA conference, that expertise in these issues be developed by a number of TAC members; however, no one at the meeting tonight was able to commit to attending. Sue Ann will contact the entire TAC membership to see if there is anyone who can/is willing to attend.

VII. Joe Evans, Chief Ranger for RMNP, gave an update on the transit issues facing RMNP and the status of its ongoing transit study. (Joe will forward a copy of their draft report to AT.) The sheer number of vehicles is impacting a variety of national parks and is beginning to negatively impact Rocky. Primary consideration is that tourists enjoy their time & movement around, particularly on the east side of the park is particularly frustrating. And the increase in visitors isn't projected to slow. The RMNP transportation planners are trying to get ahead of the curve (unlike Yellowstone & Grand Canyon). RMNP was awarded $175,000 to do substantive transit planning and last summer conducted extensive data collection and analysis efforts. Hopefully the initial stage of the RMNP transit planning effort will be completed in early June 2000. Hence the upcoming meeting at EGSD District Office at 7p on Wednesday April 26, 2000 & to discuss with RMNP neighbors, the residents of surrounding counties, the implementation issues re transportation planning over the next 20 years in RMNP. They are trying to provide some alternatives, addressing the long-range (several days) visitors vs. the residents, e.g. shuttle systems both around the eastern side of the park AND from Estes Park to Grand Lake.

RMNP has petitioned for and received another $250,000 to continue the transportation planning. This summer will see improvements under construction at Farview Curve and Milner Pass. Once the RMNP transit study is complete, a programmatic Environmental Impact Study (EIS) must be completed. There is much interest in a joint transportation system on the east side (YMCA, RMNP & Estes Park).

FYI: Larimer County TDP update will be commenced in April 2000 by LSC and will be due for completion in Spring 2001.

VIII. Various "for your information" upcoming meetings were discussed: (1) Rail-Volution 2000: Building Livable Communities with Transit. October 4-8, 2000 in downtown Denver. Ingrid indicated this is a good annual conference on rail transit issues and since it will be in Denver this year. See: http://www.railvolution.com . Barbara is willing to attend. (2) May 16, 2000, 1:30p, Examination of Global Express Courier issues (noise, weight, take-off, landing) at McElroy/Kremmling Airport. (3) October 15-18, 2000, CASTA Fall conference, Snowmass. (4) Public meeting/open house on RMNP transportation study will be April 26, 2000 in Granby at East Grand Schools District Office Board Room from 7-9p. Please try to attend.

IX. LSC/Charlier & Technical Memorandum #1 Presentation, Existing Transit Provider Meeting earlier today, and what's next? Additional data collection needs. Comments due to AT by Friday, April 21, 2000 (1.800.677.1671) or ATStoddard@lsccs.com or CLDonahue@lsccs.com. See attached notes re vision/mission/goal revisions.

X. The next Existing Transit Provider Subcommittee meeting has not yet been scheduled.

XI. Upon motion of Daryl Shrum, second of Jerry Groswold and unanimous approval, next TAC regular meeting will be Thursday, June 15, 2000 at 6p at 81 W. Agate, Granby. Meeting was adjourned at 7:55p.

XII. A brief TAC Voting member meeting followed with the following decisions: (1) re: LSC contract issues: no weekly e-mail report will be necessary so long as LSC remains regularly responsive to questions (including those seeking information to support invoices) from the TAC Chair; detailed LSC invoices by task description/time will not be necessary because (a) the contract maximum requires contractor to complete specified work, and (b) LSC cannot currently provide such detailed invoices, however (c) retainage will occur (10-20%) at end of contract to assure timely, proper completion pursuant to contract terms; invoices not being timely received on 20^th of each month simply results in greater delay to contractor payment and is not a TAC problem to resolve. (2) APTA $3000 grant application approval moved by Daryl Shrum, seconded by Gary McGraw and unanimously approved. It was then executed by Bob Anderson, Chair, Grand County BOCC and will be given to BOCC secretary to return to APTA. (3) TAC chair compensation: the consensus was that the contract proffered did not accurately reflect the intent of the voting members on this issue as discussed in their March meeting. Daryl Shrum moved to table consideration of the contract until the next TAC/voting members' meeting on June 15, 2000 while continuing to pay the monthly sum previously discussed + expenses to the chairman upon submission of detailed invoices. Gary McGraw seconded and the motion passed. Gary McGraw also offered, and the chair accepted, the administrative help of WPRA employees Jody Rhodes & Ann Frame to meet TAC duties.

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Presentation by AT on Tech Memo #1

Please get comments on this DRAFT back to AT/Corinne by Friday, April 21, 2000. Best to give them to LSC in writing, easiest is by just sending a copy of any page that you feel needs revision.

Focus of discussion was on vision statement and mission statement. Revisions to mission, vision & goals, PLUS OBJECTIVES will be included in Tech Memo #2 due May 20, 2000. Next TAC meeting will be Thursday, June 15, 2000 & this gives everyone time to take Tech Memo to their boards, councils, constituencies for review and comment before the next meeting.

Vision Statement revisions: & Page III & 7/8 of Tech Memo 1 & not intended to be specific, this is the long range picture. Sue Ann's comments were to (1) decide a specific time range for implementation (2020), (2) tie together not only Grand and Jackson internally, but also with surrounding counties (Routt, Summit, Larimer, Laramie), (3) add something about protecting the environment & saving $. Gary McGraw indicated he thinks this is very long & wordy for a vision statement. Jerry G. added that this whole process is fraught with semantic disputes and perhaps we need the mission statement first, then the vision statement, then the specific goals. Ingrid expressed similar concerns. The vision will guide the long-range component of our TDP. The mission and goals will guide the 6 year TDP timeframe.

So: Change the order, go (1) Mission Statement, then (2) Vision statement, then (3) goals. Make the vision statement more succinct, breaking out the benefits into bullets. Jerry Groswald suggestion, live and work in Grand County w/o "being dependent" upon a car (rather than "owning" a car). Make it "enhanced opportunities" "to connect with transit services outside the two counties." Use "20/20 Vision" somehow. Add something to vision about protecting environment. Delete "in family budgets." Delete "summer" from teenage jobs & it's jobs all year around for the teenagers. Add something about "reducing number of vehicle on the roads." Add "The Counties will encourage the use of mass transit in their development, planning, building and zoning processes." Delete the word "air" before pollution.

Mission statement revisions: Delete "local", so it says "protecting the environment."

Specific Goals - revisions & relabel as "Six Year Goals" or otherwise emphasize that these are very short-term goals

"No. 1 & Year-round public transportation will be provided between communities, major residential areas, and activity centers of Grand and Jackson Counties."

No. 2 & ok as is

No. 3 - ok as is

No. 4 - make it No. 5.& ok & in objectives, address: (1) on time (2) affordable, (3) convenient, (4) comfortable, (5) clean, (6) what can be done about those people who use their cars as lockers? & (7) create bus stops, shelters, benches, park n' rides & other passenger amenities, (8) reliable.

No. 5 & make it No. 4 - delete "reliable"

NEW " No. 6. Fund public transportation through a variety of reliable sources." The objectives here should include stable local funding and ??